Hi Tom, >As I said, many people go about claiming "soon" but nobody seems to >be able to define what "soon" means. The claim is meaningless. Would you consider the following as helping to explain this?: 1. If some of the statistics I have seen that say the world's population will double in 30-40 years and then it will take less time after that for it to double again, how long before the earth can't sustain all those people? 2. The Bible says a life-span will be 120 years, but now geneticists are unlocking the keys of longevity. Also, if they're talking about cloning in the public forum then some scientist somewhere has already started and we're being conditioned to it. They've already cloned a sheep that had human stuff (<---technical term) in the embryo. 3. How much more depraved can human beings get? I shudder to think that it can get any further than what we hear on the news. 4. Ever since Israel has become a nation and has been surrounded by those who want to annihilate her. God will never allow this and this pseudo-peace can only last so much longer and I don't think that either side would dispute this, etc. The covenant with Israel is nonconditional. These are some of the things that make me think "soon." Bye, Moza